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把用户体验设计放到底层逻辑架构设计的前面去做

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1、”还在考虑一些底层的逻辑关系问题,暂时不要去考虑交互设计的事情”、”底层的逻辑架构,在很大程度上决定了发展方向,而表现层修改的成本不高”、”我们的底层逻辑不是这样的,这里的交互设计不能这样做”。

上面这些话很有意思,这些现象也很普遍。
我相信大多数公司现在都是这种情况:产品负责人或架构师(或叫系统工程师)先把地层逻辑和结构设计好,然后才会去具体的体验设计。

2、多少年来我们都在这样做,我们甚至认为一定应该这样。就好像在日本人没有设计出来很轻巧的家电之前 美国人一直以为家电一定要放到柜子里面做成家具。
现在,我们应该整体的思考一下:产品设计的过程是不是必须这样? 这样是不是一定合理?
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4、产品的存在是因为需求,用户因为需求才去使用产品(无论这种需求是主动还是被动的) ;用户通过界面达到和系统的交互 从而完成”需求”。
5、可以肯定地说:”用户不知道也不关心系统底层的逻辑架构是什么? 他只知道呈现给他的界面和他体验到的交互过程是什么。”

6、”用户的需求决定产品的方向,用户的使用和交互过程决定了产品的设计“。
(记住:并不是”产品的设计决定用户的使用和交互过程”。)

7、在用户体验设计领域有很大一部分人在做”交互设计”的工作,这些工作可以大致的描述为:
“我们在了解产品思路和用户群特征以后(用户研究),会作一些典型用户的角色模拟(角色设计)和使用情景模拟(情景设计),通过情景的再现演示来总结和逐步细化用户使用中的各种交互需求(任务分解),最后用流程图和线框图的形式把设计结果表现出来”。

8、需要说明的是,交互设计画出来的流程图是”用户使用流程”,而不是”底层业务逻辑流程”。
虽然他们很相近,但本质不一样:一个是从用户的角度出发,一个是从技术实现出发;使用流程图是在描述用户的交互过程和需求,底层业务逻辑流程是为了满足用户的需求。
把用户使用流程演变成底层业务逻辑流流程,是在满足用户需求;把底层业务逻辑流程演变成用户使用流程,是在想当然的认为用户一定会按照你的设计是用产品。

9、很明显”先设计底层业务逻辑流程再考虑交互流程的设计”是标准的工程师思路,这和整个行业先前都是工程师背景有关。
最后会发现:产品是给技术实现设计的,而不是给用户设计的。(虽然做底层逻辑架构的人也会以为他们是在给用户设计,但不可否认他们的特长不是这些。)

10、这种产品设计过程也无法催动技术的提升,而且经常还会导致:
用户体验设计师做了某些好的必须的体验效果时,得到反馈 — “我们底层的逻辑不是这样的,这个我们实现不了。只能放弃这部分的体验”、”用户为什么会这样做呢? 按照我们的设计他们不会这样做呀!”、”按照现在的底层逻辑,这样的交互流程设计作不了,不要考虑了…”等等底层架构规定了体验设计的现象再普遍不过…

11、记住:用户使用的交互流程是底层业务逻辑流程的需求,而不是底层的”表现”。

所以,用户体验设计的工作不只是应该在项目之初就参与进去,而是很多体验设计都应该放到底层设计的前面去。这是一个循环的迭代过程,但站在这个过程前面的应该是用户使用的交互流程设计。
我建议:作产品需求的PM们先去作一下产品的交互设计,然后再去考虑底层的业务逻辑和架构。

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  1. 深有同感,工程师技术至上,总是觉得产品出来之后设计师美化美化,以为这个流程天经地义,而且经典的软件工程课程里从来没有教过他们什么是交互设计。幸好我是做技术出来的,不然肯定被他们BS…

  2. 赞同“用户的需求决定产品的方向,用户的使用和交互过程决定了产品的设计”。

  3. ~~ 关键是~~中国的好多互联网产品~~从功能和技术上来讲都不完善~~~更不要讲体验了
    最关键的还是需求,不过按照白鸦那么说是不是 需求=基本功能需求+用户体验预期设计呢

  4. ”用户使用流程”,”底层业务逻辑流程”。
    最合理的方式该是,这两个东西合为一体,这是设计师和工程师(我宁愿都称之为工程师)”讨价还价”的地方,而不是从一种到另一种;当然,也没有完美的东西,不可能100%的合为一体,

  5. 我看能把技术看得重要的公司就已经不错了,我们这除了业务都不重要,想想吧。中国的企业总是这样的思路。

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  7. 很好的图片设计!

  8. 先阶段来说只能是理想化,现实pm不会关注ue太多,ue能开始在pm策划的同时已经是牛。

  9. 底层业务逻辑流程我看不到你爱怎么个流法都可以, 偶不关心, 程序出错是设计者的自已事情,我要用的爽, 我就喜欢 。 。 。

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  11. “用户体验设计的工作不只是应该在项目之初就参与进去,而是很多体验设计都应该放到底层设计的前面去。这是一个循环的迭代过程”

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  13. 顶,不错的文章,以用户为中心,而不是以技术或者是逻辑本身为中心,用户需求是开始也是最终。

  14. 赞一个,真希望这篇文章能论文化,让更多的PM都能够看到,呵呵

  15. 感悟深刻!!! 在做交互设计的时候,若你的上司是偏重于编程,那就惨了!他的思维是交互要在底层架构上进行,而不是先根据用户需求做交互设计。

    把交互设计做到前头,交互设计图和程序的流程逻辑图的区别诠释,一个字“棒!!!”

  16. 等到随便拉个路人都能写代码,技术万能的时候再来说这话吧。
    只管产品,只看体验,不管项目。
    综上,博主真是活在自己一个人的,梦幻的,世界里。

  17. 问题是很多公司的产品、UE在项目之初对需求细化程度很有限,至于用户体验方面更是在运营当中逐渐总结出来的。如果有一个详细的产品展望,开发工作量也会更小,因为不必近乎极端地追求每个模块的可扩展性。
    特别是针对新兴产品开发,当前最普遍的开发、UE、产品协作方式还是不断迭代。
    赞封面图和文章很match 呵呵

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  27. 原则上非常赞同您的说法,虽然实施上会有困难。
    因为设计者与客户之间交流问题,要把这一步做好很不容易。
    特别是在中国,顾客就是上帝,上帝与凡人之间总会有沟通不到的地方,
    一般来说,能让客户觉得可以用已经很辛苦了……

    但是我觉得您说的方法应该会是大趋势所向,
    虽然这样做会让软件开发的时间更长、损耗的资源更多,
    但是这样能帮他们获得更高的效率和回报,希望更多的“老板”能够认识到这一点!

  28. abcd – 07/03/14 11:47 AM
    等到随便拉个路人都能写代码,技术万能的时候再来说这话吧。
    只管产品,只看体验,不管项目。
    综上,博主真是活在自己一个人的,梦幻的,世界里。

    同意,太虚了!
    而且,nb的底层逻辑架构是不会限制用户体验的。

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