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乐疯!

今天联想的“乐Phone”发售,看到上面这张图,再看看他的那些民间时尚代言人和劈头盖脸的论坛营销,明白了他的市场定位。我乐疯~

柳传志做“生意”、玩“中国”、搞“品牌”,一级棒。联合政府、媒体、运营商、供应商和一片赤诚的爱国之心,预接管智能手机山寨市场,一个千亿市场。为了这事,用2个亿把自己08年刚刚1个亿卖掉的“联想手机”买回来,根本不算什么,因为这笔生意太赚了。说到底,乐Phone只是一笔生意,仅此而已。

智能手机的增量市场还非常之大,现在只有10%不到。需要有人来砸钱、砸眼球、砸品牌、砸时间、砸脸来要让智能手机更加大众化。我原本以为,“乐Phone”这笔生意不光联想赚,整个无线和手持领域都会赚。

当柳传志在“乞求你给我们力量”的时候,我充满着“期待”,期待他可以通过山寨渠道把山寨智能手机卖向大众市场,期待更多的人开始接触和了解智能手机。

可惜,我错了。“生意人”从来都不是救世主,哪怕是扛着爱国大旗的生意人。

生意人的脑袋在面对钱的时候,别指望它会拐弯。他们根本不会去培养什么增量市场,甚至压根都不去关注,他们只会把眼睛盯在当前这个市场的夹缝,然后意淫着如何把别人挤到夹缝里去。那里会去想给用户创造真正的价值、给社会创造真正的价值、给产业创造真正的价值,那里会去想如何持续,那里会去想什么狗屁的责任感。钱,才是他妈最重要的。

如此想来联想这么干也正常,“乐Phone”虽然只是个被改的乱七八糟的低版本Android,披了件纸糊的“龙袍”大摇大摆装太子,然后从基因里就把它定义成了“卖得过iPhone”的东西。

iPhone在电脑城卖、在网上卖,“乐Phone”自然也得这么玩,自然得盯着已有的智能手机市场(这里的钱可是看得到的,管那些不能马上看到钱的增量市场才怪呢)。同时,再让那些拿了高额广告费的媒体疯狂造势,一时间人山人海鞭炮齐鸣。为了保护祖国,保护祖国人民,同志们,让我们直接和鬼子正面交锋吧!

可惜,他们错了。这是一个由应用体验和口碑决定的市场,披着纸糊“龙袍”混进来容易,想出去?得光着。

企业失去联想,生意将会怎样? 呜呼~

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update:
1、有人说没有用过就无法谈论体验,那么好,我把“应用体验糟糕到一塌糊涂(实测过的几个朋友如是评价)”这句话收回。
2、我说“乐Phone”的UI怎么看着比较舒服呢,原来是Robin.Z(国内UI领域的先行者,微软中国最牛设计师)做的。唉,当产品本身出了问题的时候,UI帮不了太大的忙。

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网友评论(452)

  1. 推广的时候就有问题,居然打的是爱国牌。

  2. 借用一位在微软的朋友的话:“不是Play Station或是Wii在赚钱,是游戏;不是Xbox 360在赚钱,是Xbox Live Membership。设备本身是信息的入口,这点跟LVMH卖包是截然不同的商业模式。所以还想着能不能做个手机卖卖,或是问出为什么老中给Apple送钱买iPad还被discrimination,就忽略了其实真正的利润在于设备卖出后用户的消费。做设备本身是薄利的,是产业链中近于被剥削的一环。”

  3. 其实对于很多很多用户来说,哪个东西好使就用哪个,管它是谁造出来的! 买个东西没必要被绑架到“爱国”的高度。每个国外的东西也别给人“不爱国”的帽子。

  4. 这是我读过的你写的最差的一篇文章。

    你是不是在气得发抖的情况下写的啊?

  5. 腐朽的企业,腐朽的市场。赞白鸦!

  6. 福州大利嘉电脑报道:在广场发布无人问津,回答问题的礼品都送不光。

  7. 赞,乐疯确实很纸,特别是联想那令人惊异的口号,直接无语了

  8. 我觉得联想是受魅族刺激了,只是不好意思拿M8来比,所以选了Iphone。
    看这专卖店的模式以及排队的托,跟M8专卖店刚开时一样……

  9. 应用体验糟糕到一塌糊涂(实测的人如是评价) 有待证实 白鸦这次有点激动过头了

  10. Android只不过是个开源平台,就像Linux一样,到了智者手里就可以变得无比强大,而到了智障者手里同样可以变得跟屎一样,不要太迷信一个系统,如果iPhone卖的是文化,M8卖的是口碑,那么乐Phone现在卖得恐怕只是噱头和炒作,最终市场会检验一切。

    不过就冲联想移动通讯产业一贯的市场表现及这次杨元庆的弱智发言(一个是5000元的产品,一个只有2000多元,我认为乐Phone如果卖不过iPhone,那就是失败.),我是等着看笑话的。

  11. “应用体验糟糕到一塌糊涂(实测的人如是评价)”
    还没用呢就这么鸡冻,这次白鸦有点愤青了吧,用过再骂也不迟啊(我也没用过)。

  12. 白鸦前辈,这篇文章我真的不相信是出自您的笔下,对于乐Phone的测评,我在各大Android论坛中看到的多是褒奖,无论他联想的营销做的多么夸大其辞,但单就这个价位的手机而言,乐Phone无疑是强大的,请您中立“冷静”地看看乐Phone为智能机普及所带来的正面效应。

  13. @beus 那你可以再去搜索一下多少人在骂那些论坛的软贴。

    比如:http://www.baidu.com/baidu?tn=baidu&word=%D7%EE%BD%FC%CC%EC%D1%C4%B6%B9%B0%EA%D0%A3%C4%DA%B6%BC%D4%DA%BD%B2%D5%E2%BF%EE%C0%D6%B7%E8%A3%AC%B1%BE%C0%B4%C3%BB%D4%DA%D2%E2%B5%C4%A3%AC%C8%BB%D4%F2%BF%B4%B6%E0%C1%CB%C4%D1%C3%E2%D0%C4%D1%F7%A1%A3%CA%AE%D2%BB%BA%C5%BF%B4%B5%BD%CB%FB+

  14. 联想有必要给白鸦提供一台乐phone试用:)

  15. 现在的乐phone不知道怎么样,反正以前联想的手机确实很差!

  16. 博主这样以最坏的恶意揣摸他人也不算厚道吧,人家如果真想实业强国呢。记得前几天google退出中国您不也叫好吗。或许每个公司都有自己的价值观呢,联想或许也只是想把手机产业做大,让中国的民族产业走向世界、把口碑树起来罢了。。。
    ps:模仿有什么不好呢,成本低风险小,何乐而不为呢?

  17. 乐疯,不用脑袋想就知道是垃圾,我没用过都知道肯定是垃圾,我说完了。

  18. 起码你用过了再评论。好赖都有点谱, 道听途说就骂是一种什么用户体验精神?
    代表联想研究院做用户体验的几十号兄弟bs你一下

  19. 哪个企业不是靠赚钱来生存?哪个人不是靠赚钱来养家糊口?您是靠爱国靠救世生存?
    我今天上午刚买的乐PHONE,平心而论不到3K的价位我觉得是很值了!
    最后,我很鄙视像你这些以骂国产品牌骂联想来抬升您国际的品味、跨越五大洲视野而引以为荣的所谓爱国人士!而且看了你几篇评论,很业余!

  20. @lenovo 抱歉。我把“应用体验糟糕到一塌糊涂(实测过的几个朋友如是评 价)”这句话收回。

  21. 做事要低调
    国内的一些品牌 可以学习一下M8

  22. 白鸦前辈,您说的软文,我想不是只有联想会这么干吧?这只是营销手段而已……
    我偶然得知前辈用的是iPhone,这款手机不用说,的确是划时代的产品,而且用过苹果产品的人,都会对其他同类产品有自然的排斥,这是苹果的魅力及其“营销手段”的厉害之处。
    对于乐Phone这类Android手机来说,不用过之前,您不会了解到这种操作系统对大众化、平民化互联网体验所带来革新,而乐Phone的配置在这样的价位来说,几乎已经将高端智能手机普及到了大众消费水平层次,这的确是不小的创举,建议联想乐Phone的营销公司给白鸦前辈送上一部体验体验,另外,多加宣传吧,多些人来骂也是好事一件,不是么?

  23. 联想有必要给白鸦提供一台乐phone试用:)

  24. @beus 我应该算是比较早用Android的人,从G1到G4都用过,现在在用的不是iphone而是G3。 不是因为Android好,而是因为我要不停的体验和测试

  25. […]       年年都有不靠谱的事,可这今年貌似特别多。曾经我以为魅族很不靠谱,一个 M8 跳票了一年多才问世。可是当我看到这几天联想声嘶力竭的在喊什么不顾一切投入移动互联网,然后又是满街的大叫乐Phone卖不过iPhone就是失败。我突然才明白,原来在天朝是可以不靠谱到这个程度的。不仅鸦总在看到这个东西的时候“乐疯了”,我也是笑的差点岔气。有兴趣的同学可以自行去这里深度围观,保证比看综艺节目过瘾。 […]

  26. 应用体验糟糕到一塌糊涂,光这么直接说,也不太好吧。联想也算是国内大品牌了,就算是有点问题,也比一般手机要强点吧。

    在说:在好又能怎么样,丰田牛B不,不还是一样,HP牛B不,不也一样出问题,不过联想刚推点东西,做为一个国人。也不自于这么损国人的品牌吧。FUCK。

  27. 这里有一则评测,比较中肯,乐phone体验之糟糕,可见一斑
    http://it.people.com.cn/GB/42891/42895/11414908.html

  28. 中国就是山寨之国,能赚钱就行。 想象摩托罗拉进军中国市场始末就知道了。

  29. 强烈bs联想研究院做用户体验的几十号兄弟,拿纳税人的钱,做些什么低级趣味。说我没用过乐疯我承认,但是Android也算了解,本身Android的缺陷就一堆,我不认为L能做得比Google和HTC更好。完毕。

  30. 国内的一些品牌 可以学习一下M8

  31. 这里有一则评测,比较中肯,乐phone体验之糟糕,可见一斑

  32. 乐疯定的价位还是挺精妙的,2499,大众消费品的心理突破点

  33. 一大早正准备在京东上订购一个乐Phone,一抬手看到白鸦这篇文章,就犹豫了。

    体验之差,还是要小马过河一下。楼上的那个评测没看到体验的细节,说糟糕武断了点。

  34. 对于用户体验工程师来说, 用户发表评论时,应当闭嘴, 好坏都让用户去说。 但如果有人不是用户, 凭空猜测, 还是有必要解释一下。 楼上有人贴了个link, 说体验如何糟糕, 仔细看了通
    篇文章, 涉及用户体验的就一点, 带着键盘不方便打电话。 先说键盘本身就是个附件,正式开卖的标配里是没有的。 再说这个打电话的问题, 来电话的时候, 如果手机在键盘里, 屏幕是横屏, 来了电话直接拿起来是可以对着讲的,类似对着电脑说voip。 好吧这样很傻, 那就把手机扣下来接,为此键盘的后盖和接口都是专门设计的, 为了让您能一下就把手机取下来。 您还是觉的不理想? 那您不买这个键盘就好了。它本来就是个键盘, 最要紧的是输入效率。 为了能有足够的面积排下5排键
    (这样有独立的一排数字键)让输入的效率更高,只好让您接电话不那么方便了。 不知道这算不算体验糟糕到极致?

  35. 一个好的产品,背后是无数工程师的积累,这是一个过程。

  36. 我觉得吧,乐疯只能走价格路线~不然没有竞争力!

  37. 支持,用户体验是靠积累,一点一滴,不靠口号。

  38. @lenovo 代表自己,联想笔记本的用户,鄙视一下联想。

  39. 只是静静的看前辈的文章就好,说实话这篇文我看了2遍,但是不知道怎么回复。

  40. 有一些人盲目的跟从您!是一件很可怕的事情。比如这句“乐疯,不用脑袋想就知道是垃圾,我没用过都知道肯定是垃圾,我说完了。” 第一次对您的文章发表评论,这篇文章欠妥。只是从表面看到表面!

  41. 还是没有抵挡住诱惑,下午去文三路拿了一个乐Phone回来,感觉还行。具体的用户体验啥的,要观察一段时间,呵呵…… 短信输入的误操作率比我现在的M8要低,还不错。

  42. @lenovo, 无话可说了,有人有意见就仔细听么,产品出来了,如果听不得别人的意见,还怎么改进自己,如果只是想听人家好话,就不要做下去了。光这个名字就已经可以断定这手机一定跟苹果是一个档次的,名字乐疯,明显是从iphone演变过来的痕迹,自己的目标也是超过iphone,如何如何的。如果你的目标是为了超越别人,那你基本上超过的希望很渺茫了,好好想想自己有什么优势吧。也许过段时间真能超越也说不定

  43. 我来看看了

  44. 没用过就喷,还写这么多,说联想打爱国牌。。。。
    还有些人说lephone从名字看就是学iphone,难道现在叫手机的全是学波导的?

  45. 白鸦老师:
    晚上好。我是一名在校学生,看你的博客有一年了。最近写一片博客界面设计的论文中,希望得到您这位骨灰级用户的一点建议。我的专业是工业设计,然后这篇论文的创意点就是把博客网页的界面做成明信片形式的版面,(同样显示标题、正文部分显示,还有和正文匹配的图片,我观察了很久您的博客是有精心图文对应的)每月推出当月点击率最好的文章,这样下来一年就有12张,然后年底的时候电子转发或者打印出来互送友人。同时也支持在线下载,不知道您从用户的角度上来看是不是乐意这样呢?我认为这样一来,作用是又回馈了读者又增强了共享还比较有趣。
    呵呵,希望您别觉得我无聊,我看了很多博客界面然后得到这么一小小的创意点也花了蛮久时间。论文没有创意点估计是难毕业。
    希望您的回复。谢谢。

  46. […] 有人说乐Phone体验差,再加上白鸦以乐疯!为题写了篇情绪激动的文章,导致我犹豫再三。但体验这码子事儿,就像小马过河,当年我买入魅族M8的时候,还不是顶着山寨的骂名。 […]

  47. 那个人民网的链接不提也罢,行文完全配得上右边广告的凤姐照,不配做评测。
    个人认为le 在国内的销量一定会超过iphone。 超越的硬件配置,一半的价格,大家不是傻子。也许有人说 htc的rom内置软件好用不少,确实就内置来说 N1 的2.1 默认不如htc的,
    但le的中文网络化作的最好,不要拿1.6说事,这没用,G3的不还是1.6的? le 绝对是有诚意的一个机子。G3的价格 N1的配置 主流的软件,还求什么呢?

  48. @小同学 没太明白你的意思。 咱们可以邮件交流,我的邮件在“关于我”里面有

  49. 大多数人是需要一个电话,电话最好能上qq,能偷菜,一些小游戏就ok了。 Android平台上,把qq做这么高优先级别的 le是第一个。我承认那4叶上的功能 我是最需要的。

  50. 能在网上发评测的与满大街用山寨机的,两者之间注定无法逾越。后者几乎不可能会用“体验”去谈一个手机,拥有已经是不错的体验了。所谓的体验糟糕的产品,用惯了也会很顺手,甚至反过来觉得iphone很难用都有可能。商家应该看的很清楚,应用和体验决定了市场,但体验绝只是产品本身,至于企业责任和眼光,更多只是顺势而为或应势而为。

  51. 博主,你好!
    经常在您的博客上评论,想做个调查,请您一定参与,谢谢。
    具体内容,请参考:http://www.ropean.org/SEO/Spam.htm
    感谢您的配合!

  52. 白鸦说的那些链接都被封了~

  53. 白鸦这次有点激动过头了

  54. 还好吧

  55. 感觉还好吧

  56. 唉,我真的是啥样的评论都不敢发啊,因为你们所接触的这些手机,我一个也没有用过,所以没有权利发表

  57. 哈哈……

  58. 有财富的人追求优裕的生活,有智慧的人追求优质的生活。

  59. 当一位用户体验设计师总是将“产品”关在嘴边,他就已经和设计渐远了。白鸦同学已经越来越不务正业,很难再看到他对设计问题的深入分析,反而通篇都是不专业不严谨的在讲“产品”。

    做设计不需要忽悠和浮躁,需要的是潜心探究的精神。

  60. 就这排队的虚假场景,让我反胃。产品需要营销,这没问题。可大把的银子花在这种虚伪的东西上,不如踏踏实实投入到产品研发中。联想的产品,也曾亮点频出,比如家用PC上的呼吸灯,比如早年的女性香水手机。至少那时是敢于尝试,多年的贸工技,导致了今天的恶果。自祥云火炬之后,难见优秀产品设计。

  61. 不看好,走着瞧

  62. 还没用过,不好说,只是不看好

  63. 联想全面进军中国手机市场的第一炮:不掉面儿的吆喝!
    联想复制iphone的路线是虽说无奈,但乐phone和iphone差距太大,很难领跑国内手机市场。
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  65. 同志们,你们都低估了联想,低估了柳传志

  66. 没用过,只能简单评价下自己知道的:

    1:工业造型设计太圆滑了,另外有过于笨拙的感觉
    2:二级的圆形图标设计太业余了,远看一个样子,全是气泡,别迷恋微软的设计师
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    至于配置:我认为这是联想非常有诚意的一个产品,试看同等价位下,还有第二个同等配置的产品吗?

    3:至于产品体验,没用过不知道,但不至于像有些人说的是个垃圾吧。
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  69. 同意楼上

  70. 不能同意你更多~~

  71. 不管乐Phone怎么样,我觉得站在一个批评家的角度来看待这个产品对于联想来说都是有有益处的!联想如果做的足够好,那么完全可以不用顾忌批评,因为一切以事实说话。而网上有那么多的批评,就证明乐Phone在某些环节上还存在问题。如果让所有人闭嘴了,乐Phone也将是一款划时代的产品!

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  73. 没用过,不打算买。

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